In this episode we are joined by Mandy McEwen the founder of Luminetics. Mandy is a well known speaker and an expert on LinkedIn and Social Selling and we will explore Mandy's successful strategies, techniques and best practices for accelerating your response rate on LinkedIn in just 30 days.
In this week's show, Mandy takes us on her journey from entering the LinkedIn game in 2015 to becoming a pro at humanizing content marketing. Get ready to absorb her unique insights as she shares how she transforms businesses by building personal brands on LinkedIn.
In an age where digital communication often supersedes face-to-face interaction, our conversation emphasizes the need for a human touch. We explore the power of crafting a personal brand, discussing the importance of understanding your why, what, and how and sharing this information with your network. We shed light on the potential of personal engagement in networking. The value of digital deposits, like comments, can go a long way in creating lasting impressions, meaningful connections, and potential customers.
To wrap up, we delve into the realm of LinkedIn content engagement. We discuss how to kickstart your sales teams with content creation, the importance of content curation, and a practical three-step approach towards it. But that's not all. Mandy shares a golden nugget on how personal comments on profiles and posts can triple engagement. Finally, we touch base on the significance of sending connection requests on LinkedIn and tips on how to do it effectively. So, whether you are a seasoned LinkedIn user or a newbie, tune in to level up your LinkedIn game with our deep dive into humanizing content marketing.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Social Selling 2.0 Live Show and
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Podcast, where each week, we explore the future of B2B sales.
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Social has changed the B2B and professional services landscape
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forever.
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Capturing and keeping buyer attention has never been more
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challenging.
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Our mission is to help you discover new strategies, new
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technologies, new go-to-market systems and stay up-to-date with
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what is working now in B2B sales.
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Your hosts are Carson Hedy, the number one social seller at
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Microsoft, tom Burton, a best-selling author and B2B
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sales specialist, and Brandon Lee, an entrepreneur with
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multiple seven and eight figure exits and a leading voice in
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LinkedIn social selling.
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Brandon and Tom also leads Social Selling 2.0 Solutions,
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which offers turnkey consulting, coaching and training to B2B
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sales leaders.
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Now let's start the show.
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Speaker 2: Everyone, welcome episode number 53.
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Is it 53, brandon, or 52?
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Am I getting ahead of myself, I think?
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Speaker 3: it might be 52.
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Speaker 4: It's 52.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's 50-something, it's 50-something
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on social selling.
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Speaker 4: We can't remember things, so it all works out.
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Speaker 2: Right, Mandy.
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What number is this?
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You probably know.
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Speaker 3: I know right.
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Speaker 2: Exactly 53.
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Speaker 3: It is 53.
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Speaker 4: 53.
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There we go.
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Carson looks very different today, a big upgrade for Carson.
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Speaker 2: Yes, welcome, mandy.
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Thank you for filling it, and what you're not filling in for
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Carson, you're just going to have to make up for Carson.
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Here I am in a truck stop in Syracuse, new York, outside of
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Syracuse, new York.
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Mandy, where are you?
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Speaker 3: I am in Crete, Greece , on an island.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I think that wins.
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Brandon, would you like to try and compete with that?
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Speaker 4: No, not at all.
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I'm not even going to attempt it.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Well, we have Butch in Atlanta too, so welcome Butch.
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If you're on, let us know where you are.
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We'll see how many states or countries we can cover here
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today.
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Speaker 4: Let's see who's closest to Mandy geographically
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today.
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Speaker 3: Yes, that'd be fun.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm pretty far out here, or if you're driving
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yes, or if you're driving in Buckeys.
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Speaker 3: Buckeys.
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Yeah, are you at Buckeys, tom?
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I don't know if Syracuse, do Syracuse have Buckeys I?
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Don't know, I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I was at Texas.
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I will be at a Buckeys on Saturday as we drive to
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Birmingham to visit our daughter for family weekend.
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Speaker 3: This other thing I love Buckeys.
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It's the best.
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Speaker 2: Is that a truck stop?
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Speaker 4: Oh no, it's not a truck stop, it's an experience.
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Speaker 3: It's an experience.
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Yeah, it's something like you've never seen before at a
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truck stop.
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Speaker 2: Okay, this place is not an experience.
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This place that I'm at is not an experience, so it is not
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Buckeys and we have Ken from Canada.
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Welcome.
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Speaker 3: And.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 3: That's true, it is spelled Buckeys, buckeys.
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Right, I was spelling it wrong too when I first went.
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It's okay, tom, you don't even know You're missing out.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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I know I'm in search of Buckeys now.
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All right, let's get started.
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Mandy, welcome.
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Tell us a little bit about yourself and your background and
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how you got involved and linked in and what you do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Thanks so much for having me both of you, I'm
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excited to be here.
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So I have been doing this for a very long time.
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I started my agency Mod for Marketing back in 2010 and kind
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of fell into the LinkedIn game, probably 2015-ish, and I was
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using it to get clients for my agency.
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And then I started telling other people about how I was
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getting clients and then they were landing clients Like, oh my
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God, whatever you told me, Mandy, I just landed 15
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appointments in one week and this was like 2016,.
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You know they're like you should make a course on this.
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So I did.
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In 2017, I had a couple of LinkedIn courses for agency
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owners and consultants that did really well, had mastermind
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groups, and then fast forward to 2021.
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We were already kind of doing this for clients and I saw a
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massive need for this post-COVID and I was like why don't we
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create another, a separate brand , to focus solely on LinkedIn
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for companies, so we're not getting confused with our social
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media and organic marketing agency, ModGirl?
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So I created Luminetics in 2021 .
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And now we help sales and executive teams succeed on
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LinkedIn with training, some done for you, profile content,
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content, et cetera, and really our whole goal is to help teams
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kick ass and build personal brands on LinkedIn that drive
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revenue for their companies.
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Speaker 2: And are you mostly B2B or B2C, or small business or
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all over?
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Speaker 3: It's usually mid-sized B2B, but we even have
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some luxury real estate clients that use LinkedIn to connect
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with executives, to land, you know, to sell multi-million
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dollar homes to them, right?
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But it's primarily B2B, saas and usually like mid-market
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enterprise.
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Speaker 2: Good, you're in the right place, excellent.
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Speaker 3: But it's, you know, mainly tech teams with, at least
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you know, five minimum, 10 minimum sales SDRs, bdrs.
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Speaker 4: Right, right.
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We have the right moment to talk to our audience today.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we definitely do .
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So we're gonna get into a lot of things on personal brand and,
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obviously, what we talked about how to 3X LinkedIn engagement
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in 30 days.
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But as we start, Mandy, there was something on your website
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that really intrigued me and I thought it was really
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interesting was a term you used humanized content marketing.
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So talk to us a little bit about what that is and how that
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kind of fits into what you do and LinkedIn and everything else
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.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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So we live in an age where we are all striving for human
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connection and business.
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We are not doing business with logos, we're doing business with
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people.
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So it is really important that everything you do has a
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humanized elements.
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I don't know about you guys, but if you see boring corporate
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LinkedIn posts that are linking to white papers or webinars and
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they're just using the same jargon over and over again, it
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doesn't really resonate right.
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So what we like to do is help companies and individuals from
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teams leverage storytelling, leverage their own experiences.
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You can even do this at the corporate level, but it's really
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getting the humans behind your content.
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So leveraging more of your team members so even if it's from
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getting them on camera or getting your customers involved
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with creating content, making case studies is like the bare
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minimum of this.
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But even storytelling from a customer perspective,
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storytelling from your company culture and what it's like to
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work there.
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And then, of course, when you're an individual either in
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an executive role, sales role, et cetera you need to be sharing
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content that humanizes you as a professional and lets people
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know who you are as a human being and not just a bunch of
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business jargon.
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So this goes both for the company side and the individual
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side as well.
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It's really just resonating with people in a way that
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actually works, instead of just posting a bunch of boring stuff
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that doesn't resonate really.
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Speaker 2: You know, Brandon, I know you have a thought on this,
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but before you jump in, I have a question.
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Mandy, we hear a lot Well God, but Facebook or LinkedIn is not
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Facebook.
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Right, we shouldn't be putting you know personal staff and
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things like that on LinkedIn.
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What's, what's your take on that, when people tell you that,
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yeah, I mean it shouldn't.
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Speaker 3: It isn't into Instagram, it isn't Facebook.
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I don't care what you ate for breakfast, right, that's not
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what LinkedIn is for.
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But again, we are human beings that are doing business with
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other human beings, and so you don't have to get personal if
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you don't want to.
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But if you don't, then you need to show your personality when
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you're posting valuable business posts.
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So I'm not.
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This is all comfort level.
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I have some people crushing it that have never shown anything
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about their personal life at all , but they show their
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personality when they're talking about certain things.
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They leverage storytelling, and so that's what.
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That's what really stands out.
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So, and and I was just on right before here in another Session
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where I gave like an 80 20 rule right, like 20% could be
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personal content, 80% could be business, right, or.
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But you can think of it as like , if you're posting four times a
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week, maybe make one of them more personal.
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But even when I do personal posts, I'm tying it to something
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inspirational or motivational.
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I'm not just posting a selfie or posting a picture of the sea
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that I'm looking out at right now Like there's something with
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it, and you can always apply some sort of Tips, whether it's
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business related or not, it could be life related to
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anything that you post personal.
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So this is not Instagram, it's not Facebook, but you can still
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be a human being on LinkedIn.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love hearing that we, we, we talk about a lot
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and some of the questions I get I'd love to hear your take on.
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It is and you explained it a little bit there but why is
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adding our personality or adding a little bit of personal
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discovery or personal Information about ourselves?
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Why is that so?
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Speaker 3: important Because you're gonna look like everyone
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else if you don't.
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That's the easiest answer I have.
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It is so competitive.
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This, like any, any Anything that you're in right now, the
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landscape that you're in, really most industries are uber
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competitive and you are competing against of a bunch of
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people, whether you're trying to get a job, or whether you're in
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sales, whether you're a founder , which you're still kind of in
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sales, you're up against a lot of competition.
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So the more that you're letting people know who you are as a
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human and showing your personality, the more you're
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gonna attract People that are like that and that resonate with
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you and like your energy.
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Like this is all.
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This is all about energy, right , and so when we are boring and
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no one knows who we are as a human being, we're gonna look
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like everyone else and we're not gonna increase our chances of
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landing that job, landing that opportunity right like at the
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core.
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That's what it is.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that and you helping people understand.
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At the core, it is a human heart connecting with the human
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heart, and I know we're not supposed to talk about hearts
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and feelings and all that and linked in which is total
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bullshit.
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Right, we talk about it because it's important, yes, but it's
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we've got to put ourselves out there and let other human beings
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, other human hearts, find something to connect with us.
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And, as I like to say, if we only lead with our title, we're
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only giving them our title and our boring work spiel to connect
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with.
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And that doesn't happen.
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And For anybody that is, you know, second guessing this, I
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ask what's the percentage of conversations you have with
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customers when you're at dinner?
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How much is personal and how much is business?
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Or over a cup of coffee or at a networking event having a drink
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?
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Just look at that and you can clearly see that it's through
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the personal Discovery and conversations that we connect,
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we bond, and then opportunities not only happen, but they happen
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more and they accelerate once that bond is connected.
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Yeah, thanks for sharing all that.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to touch on a couple of the comments.
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Here is Andrew was saying you know you want to build rapport
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right, and the only way to build rapport to your point Mandy is
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rising above the crowd because otherwise you're not going to
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build anything other than create noise along the way.
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And I don't know.
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Captain Kirk here seems to think that Brandon is anything
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but boring.
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But so that's a thumbs up for Brandon today and Going for me.
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And he said he thresh and he freshened his breath before
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logging in today.
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Speaker 4: All right, captain's on the captain's on the deck,
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he's on the, he's on the roll today, yeah, so let's talk a bit
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about personal brand.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think this ties into this, because I
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think this is another question we get a lot is why is it
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important to have a personal brand online?
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Or even is it important to have a personal brand online?
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I have to say we're getting more and more questions about it
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.
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But yeah, go ahead, brandon.
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Well, I'd say, and Mandy, what, when you answer that, what
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exactly is?
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Speaker 4: a personal brand.
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I think there's still a lot of confusion About what we mean,
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and could you kind of define that in a concise way to help
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people understand it?
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Speaker 3: So first of all, I hate to break it to you, but
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every single person has a personal brand, like if you are
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on the internet, you have a personal brand period and your
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personal brand is your social media and in the B2B world, your
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personal brand is your personal brand and in the B2B world,
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your personal brand is the home of your linked in profile.
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So, whether you want one or not , you have a personal brand.
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So you need to start owning it, otherwise it's just gonna sit
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there and do nothing for you.
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So you know.
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Back up, like your question originally, tom is like do you
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need a personal brand?
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Like?
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You don't have a choice.
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You already have one.
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You know.
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Whether you are doing anything about it or not is irrelevant.
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You have one, so it's in your best interest to actually pay
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attention to it.
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And to answer your question, brandon, I like to think of a
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personal brand as the intersection between your why
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you're what and your how.
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So you know why are you doing what you're doing, like, how are
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you doing it and what do you do Right?
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So you're doing these things, how are you doing it differently
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and why do you do it?
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Why are you passionate about that?
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And that's your personal brand and you can easily Portray all
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of those on your linked in profile, and so it's the
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intersection of those things that makes you who you are and
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why you do what you do as a professional, and then you you
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need to optimize your linked in profile to portray those things
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that I just mentioned.
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I love that.
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My favorite quotes personal brand is when you're being
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talked about and you are not in the room.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, is that?
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Was that a Jeff Bezos quote?
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Speaker 3: I think that is Amazon homie.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's the one that said that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah that's good.
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Speaker 2: So let's talk about the why.
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I think that's awesome, the intersection of what you're
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talking about.
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Do you see that, the why, that it's really important when
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people are kind of looking at this for themselves, that
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they're looking at that why first, or does that take any
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precedence over the other two?
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Or do I need to look at all three of those the why, the what
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and the how?
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Speaker 3: You know kind of yeah , I mean, simon Snack always
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says lead with why right, of course.
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So I mean, it's gonna help if you understand that and you have
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clarity on why you do what you do and like, what fires you up
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to Actually wake up and do what you do every day, hoping that
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you do actually enjoy what your profession is, and if not, I
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hope that you're working to change that.
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So, yeah, I think it's important to to lead with that.
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But all of them are important, right, but when you lead with
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that, everything else is gonna come together, like they're
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gonna know what you do and they're gonna know how you're
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different from your why you know .
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So your why is going to differentiate you with the what
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and the how.
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So, yeah, I think they're all important, but you know,
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obviously you need to to have clarity on those things, and
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then you need to let people know .
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And even if you have clarity on those things, that doesn't
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matter if no one knows it, so like you can have it up here,
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but if you're not letting the world know those things, and
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it's kind of pointless, and so that's a whole.
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Other topic of conversation Is like, how do we let people know
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those?
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And that's where your profile comes into play.
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That's where your content comes into play.
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That's where conversations behind the scenes come into play
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.
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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of different elements here to let
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people or the world know that this is what you do and why you
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do it so when you're working with a client and let's say
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they've worked out their personal brand, the what, the
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why and the how, and you've updated their profile, do you
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work with them on their content strategy then to align with that
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?
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Or how do you think about your content strategy and even maybe
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your commenting strategy, right, not just your, your, your
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posting, but how you comment and how you engage and how you
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interact?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I mean it all.
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It all kind of goes hand in hand, right.
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But you know, backing up, before you even start thinking
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about content, you need to start thinking about your network,
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you know.
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So when I'm training teams, contents actually the last one
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I'm training sales teams is different.
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When we're working with marketing, right, but what an
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executives.
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But when I'm training sales team specifically, the content
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is the last thing that we talk about, because I want to make
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sure that they're nailing down their, their copy on their
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profile and that they understand how to build real relationships
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on LinkedIn, because when you do that and you engage with
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people, you're leaving comments, you're building relationships,
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you're adding connections.
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Every single day, the content ideas become easier and easier
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because you're having conversations, you're seeing
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what's happening online, you're you're following certain people
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that are giving you inspiration that you can then take and make
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your own post from right.
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So there's so many elements that come into play here before
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you even get to the content.
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When you are in that now, when it's just marketing or it's
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executives, you know that's a whole other ball game.
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When it comes to the content strategy and yes, that is when
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we're working with what is important to them, what is their
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expertise?
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What do they want to be known for?
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So that's a big thing with personal brain is like what is
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what do you want to be known for ?
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So if you're a marketer, great you're a marketer, but there's
00:16:56
lots of sub marketing niches, right, like I'm a marketer and I
00:16:59
know lots of things.
00:17:00
I know SEO and social media and PR like.
00:17:03
I content marketing, like I've done a lot in my 15 plus year
00:17:06
career as a marketer, but what I want to be known for now is
00:17:09
what I'm doing on the LinkedIn front and personal branding
00:17:11
front as a social seller right.
00:17:13
So you need to get really specific on what you want people
00:17:16
to know you for, because we have all, everyone has a job
00:17:19
title and we're in a certain industry.
00:17:20
But you have to drill down and like what do you really want to
00:17:24
be known for and that's what you need to build your content
00:17:26
around.
00:17:28
Speaker 2: That's great, and I love what you're saying about
00:17:30
thinking about the network first , and even in Brandon, obviously
00:17:35
, you talk a lot about this is Comedy.
00:17:38
Is comedy is like listening right rather than coming out and
00:17:40
saying here I am, look at me, you're building a network,
00:17:43
you're building the relationship here, as Andrew said.
00:17:45
You're building a community here on things as well, and then
00:17:49
you're working out what's the best way to actually Then figure
00:17:54
out how you communicate.
00:17:55
Am I getting that right?
00:17:56
Speaker 3: That's 100% accurate, and I was the session I was
00:17:58
just on.
00:17:58
I was telling people like For those of you who aren't super
00:18:02
comfortable posting right now, just get in the habit of
00:18:05
commenting.
00:18:05
Leave five comments a day.
00:18:07
Leave five meaningful comments a day on prospects.
00:18:09
Post, industry leaders, post if you're getting a job, maybe the
00:18:11
companies, that people at work for those companies.
00:18:12
Get in the habit of leaving comments, because then that's
00:18:17
going to warm you up for making your own content and what you
00:18:19
can do is you can take all those comments that you leave.
00:18:21
You can copy and paste them into a word doc or a Google doc
00:18:25
and then, when you're ready to post content, go back, look at
00:18:27
your comments and then, voila, all you have to do is copy and
00:18:30
paste one of your great comments , add a little bit more to it
00:18:33
and, bam, you have a post.
00:18:35
Because the way our brains work, it's easier for us, as humans,
00:18:38
to respond to someone else than it is for us to come up with our
00:18:41
own content.
00:18:42
So when you're getting the habit of posting consistently
00:18:44
and commenting on people's posts , it just makes your life so
00:18:47
much easier when it comes to posting your own content to not
00:18:49
to mention you're going to open up, multiple you know people to
00:18:53
see you visibility, other goodwill with LinkedIn people,
00:18:56
not to mention, when you're posting content, the people that
00:18:58
you're leaving comments on they're most likely to also
00:19:01
reciprocate.
00:19:02
It's this is how we work as human beings, like the law of
00:19:04
reciprocation.
00:19:05
Like you scratch my back, I scratch yours right.
00:19:06
So that's how it works.
00:19:08
We build community, we help each other out, so there's so
00:19:11
many benefits of commenting on a consistent basis.
00:19:14
Speaker 4: Mandy, how do you, how do you answer the question
00:19:16
when and I'm sure this has never happened to you, but you know
00:19:19
be to be sales people that you're working with them,
00:19:22
coaching them to comment, that they get on their computer, they
00:19:26
get their hands on their keyboard and they go.
00:19:27
I don't know what to say.
00:19:30
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:19:30
Speaker 4: It never happens, right Never.
00:19:32
Speaker 3: Never, never, heard that one more.
00:19:34
The basic like.
00:19:36
Here's a couple of tips.
00:19:37
At a bare minimum, you can literally copy and paste a
00:19:41
sentence that resonated with you most Literally.
00:19:43
Copy and paste it, put it into the comment and be like yes,
00:19:47
right on, totally agree with that.
00:19:48
Like that's at bare minimum.
00:19:49
You could also recap what they said.
00:19:52
So, in your own words, recap what the post just said.
00:19:55
You can also ask a question right related to the post.
00:19:59
Like there are a million ways where you don't have to use your
00:20:01
brain that much to actually leave a meaningful comment.
00:20:04
You know so, if you're having a moment, then there's also AI
00:20:09
tools.
00:20:09
You can literally copy someone's post into chat GPT and
00:20:13
say write a three, a meaningful , three sentence comments
00:20:17
response to this post and see what chat GPT spits out and then
00:20:21
tweak it and make it your own in your own language.
00:20:24
And then, bam, you have comment .
00:20:25
There's plugins that do this too.
00:20:26
Like AI is your friend when you can't think you know.
00:20:30
So use AI, yeah.
00:20:33
Speaker 4: And that's in use AI everybody.
00:20:36
But don't use AI without editing it.
00:20:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, no.
00:20:41
Speaker 4: Use it to get started Because, like what you said
00:20:43
earlier is, a lot of times it's easier to create from other
00:20:48
people's content because we're not creating from scratch, and
00:20:53
that's how I find that AI is really good.
00:20:55
It's a great way to get started .
00:20:57
Give you you know, throw some paint on the canvas and then let
00:21:00
you move it around and set a staring at a blank canvas.
00:21:04
Speaker 3: Exactly.
00:21:04
Yeah, Please don't ever.
00:21:05
It is so obvious and I get probably every post that I make
00:21:09
now has very obvious at least one chat GPT comment and it is
00:21:13
so obvious.
00:21:15
Speaker 4: What do you do with it?
00:21:16
So we have these conversations like should we start calling
00:21:18
people out on it?
00:21:19
Do we ignore it?
00:21:21
What do we do?
00:21:22
Speaker 3: I think because now I'm just like me and my team,
00:21:24
we're just like liking it and like that's it, or maybe we
00:21:27
won't even at all.
00:21:27
If it's really bad, we'll just ignore it.
00:21:29
But I haven't called anyone out yet because I don't know.
00:21:31
I don't want to really be that girl right now you know, like I
00:21:34
got your fish to fry than like calling people out for cheating
00:21:38
with chat GPT.
00:21:39
I don't know.
00:21:39
What do you guys think?
00:21:41
Speaker 4: You know I have on a few that were very obvious.
00:21:43
I've asked the question and I preface it with just out of
00:21:47
curiosity Was this AI created?
00:21:51
But what I found is nobody ever responds.
00:21:55
Speaker 3: Of course they don't Right.
00:21:57
Speaker 4: But what it tells me is they're using some sort of a
00:22:00
commenting tool with some automation, and their concept is
00:22:04
speed, not engagement, and they're not in it for the human
00:22:08
to human communication.
00:22:10
They're in it just to, you know , spray their, spray, their
00:22:13
stuff as wide as they can which is like so counterintuitive,
00:22:17
like it actually does more harm than good.
00:22:20
Speaker 3: You know, it's so obvious.
00:22:22
And if you're not like genuinely building relationships
00:22:24
and leaving meaningful comments and having dialogue with people
00:22:27
, like in real time, then it's completely.
00:22:29
You're wasting your time for one and you're making yourself
00:22:31
look like a fool for two.
00:22:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that makes me think of another question for
00:22:36
you, mandy.
00:22:36
Maybe you have somebody that comes to you.
00:22:40
They're interested in your services and they say well, how
00:22:43
is this different?
00:22:44
Or how would you compare it to the automation tools that send
00:22:48
out the call connection request with you know sequencing direct
00:22:52
messages.
00:22:52
How do you coach people or answer that question?
00:22:57
Speaker 3: So back in the day, when I first started out in
00:23:01
LinkedIn 2016, I 100% was testing out automated tools.
00:23:06
Speaker 1: It was the wild wild west.
00:23:07
Speaker 3: People didn't know.
00:23:08
You had no clue that it was automated.
00:23:10
Now, first of all, it's against LinkedIn's TOS, right, I'm not,
00:23:14
like I will admit like I 100% back in the day, use them
00:23:18
because why not?
00:23:19
Everyone else was testing them out, right, but I haven't in
00:23:21
years.
00:23:22
And it's so obvious, not to mention it's so noisy now, that
00:23:25
you have to stand out.
00:23:27
Right, this is all about standing out and making yourself
00:23:29
, differentiating yourself from the crowd.
00:23:31
So when you take two seconds like do you know how many people
00:23:34
that I've connected with on a deep level that we're not really
00:23:37
good friends with Maybe I've done business deals with because
00:23:39
I took two minutes out of my day to look at their profile,
00:23:43
engage their content and leave a meaningful connection request,
00:23:46
you can't do that with AI, right ?
00:23:47
It's very.
00:23:48
If you're just sending a blank request like hey, tom.
00:23:51
Like hey first name, it's going to send to Tom.
00:23:53
Hey first name is going to send to Brandon.
00:23:54
Came across your profile today.
00:23:55
See that you're a leader, would love to connect.
00:23:58
Like that's so generic and it doesn't stand out.
00:24:00
But when you take two seconds to call out the podcast episode
00:24:04
that you just had with Mandy McEwen and how it was insightful
00:24:07
and how much you learned?
00:24:08
Guess what you know.
00:24:10
That's not AI, and nine times out of 10, y'all are going to
00:24:12
accept that connection request right yeah.
00:24:16
Speaker 4: Plus, if we go back to you know the Bible of human
00:24:20
engagement, here you're hitting the dopamine.
00:24:25
The serotonin are getting kicked in because we people love
00:24:30
to be listened to and when we comment I believe commenting is
00:24:35
the digital equivalent of listening they don't know that
00:24:39
we've read their content, unless we comment.
00:24:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you mentioned that in the connection
00:24:43
request.
00:24:44
I love the post that you just had yesterday about X, Y and Z.
00:24:47
You're stroking their ego.
00:24:48
You're making them realize that you actually read it.
00:24:50
You're a human being, You're not a bot.
00:24:52
I mean, there's so many advantages to taking two minutes
00:24:55
out of your day to do this versus automation.
00:24:57
And so what happens to when you're using automation and
00:25:01
you're only going to get a small person to be able to accept
00:25:03
that right?
00:25:03
So let's say you had three bad ass prospects in that automation
00:25:07
sequence and they are really sharp and they know it was
00:25:10
automated and they don't accept your connection request.
00:25:12
Well, guess what?
00:25:13
You probably completely lost out on that.
00:25:15
Or if you would have done it personally, you could have
00:25:18
landed them as clients because you took an extra you know what
00:25:21
I mean Two minutes to stick to them.
00:25:23
So like it just doesn't work that way anymore with automation
00:25:26
.
00:25:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, it reminds me when Tom Anthony and Irina was
00:25:30
on our show and he said something that a lot of people
00:25:33
kind of stopped.
00:25:33
I'm like, oh, he said I would rather be effective than
00:25:39
efficient.
00:25:39
Right, let's, let's use our time to be more effective, and
00:25:46
then we don't have to worry so much about how fast are we
00:25:49
getting stuff done.
00:25:50
And I believe that speed is the biggest challenge for people,
00:25:56
and one of the mindsets that we talk about for modern sellers is
00:25:59
go slow to move fast, and that's what we're talking about
00:26:04
Be efficient and when you, when you take time to engage with
00:26:08
people, to be authentic, to, as Mandy says, take two seconds to
00:26:12
read it and write something personal, first of all, for
00:26:17
everybody, it doesn't happen overnight.
00:26:19
It doesn't mean that every single person you customize
00:26:22
something to is going to go oh my gosh, here's my wallet, where
00:26:25
do I buy?
00:26:25
Like it just doesn't work that way.
00:26:27
But get into the groove of it and all of a sudden you start I
00:26:31
mean, mandy, that's the way you and I got connected.
00:26:34
I, I mean in full disclosure I wanted to meet Mandy, so I
00:26:39
started commenting on her stuff.
00:26:42
Speaker 2: And then I said I said did you use AI?
00:26:44
Did you use AI?
00:26:45
Did you put like a bunch of emojis in there from AI?
00:26:48
Speaker 4: I did.
00:26:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:26:51
Speaker 4: But that's, that's the way I got connected to Mandy
00:26:54
and then we we chatted a little bit on post and then I sent her
00:26:59
messages and invited her beyond the show.
00:27:01
And here she is, all the way from Greece.
00:27:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, brandon was putting in the digital deposits
00:27:06
before he withdrew, right, Okay, Before you do the withdrawal,
00:27:11
Like this is what.
00:27:11
This is what one of my clients just said, right, so it's like
00:27:14
you you have to put in those digital deposits before you are
00:27:17
asking for anything.
00:27:18
You have to decide value and act like a real human being and
00:27:21
don't pretend like everyone else or or a bot, or you know, like
00:27:24
people know and it's very obvious in the same age like
00:27:28
who's actually doing it and is, and who's meaningful and taking
00:27:31
time and who isn't.
00:27:31
And unfortunately, there's so many people that are still
00:27:34
trying to shortcut it and they are using bots, they are using
00:27:37
AI, they're using automation or they're just blasting impersonal
00:27:40
emails or impersonal in-mails on LinkedIn and they're not
00:27:43
getting results.
00:27:44
And they wonder why, you know.
00:27:45
And so you do have to slow down a little bit, take a little bit
00:27:48
extra time, and when you do that, your results are going to
00:27:51
be through the roof compared to if you're just doing it the old
00:27:53
school way.
00:27:54
Speaker 4: Hey, mandy, could, would you mind?
00:27:56
Could you think of a?
00:27:57
A story we're all storytellers, right Of a customer that
00:28:02
experienced that aha moment in commenting and being more human
00:28:08
and social.
00:28:08
So I'll put you on the spot.
00:28:11
Speaker 3: No, it's all good.
00:28:12
I have a really good one I like to share.
00:28:13
It's super simple and short.
00:28:14
So I trained a team and one of the individuals took what she
00:28:19
learned and went out and she left one comment on an industry
00:28:23
influencers post.
00:28:24
She was one of the first ones to comment and by the end of the
00:28:27
day she had 400 new connection requests from one comment.
00:28:30
One comment, oh yeah.
00:28:34
Because, it was timing and it was a.
00:28:36
It was a lengthy, really well thought out comment.
00:28:40
Okay, it wasn't just two sentences, it was a long comment
00:28:43
that was very insightful and she added her own two cents to
00:28:46
it.
00:28:46
And this guy had lots and lots of followers and it was a timing
00:28:49
thing too.
00:28:49
She happened to be one of the first that commented and it was
00:28:52
a really, really good, well thought out comment.
00:28:54
That took her a little bit of time to do and she had 400
00:28:57
targeted connection requests from her specific industry by
00:29:01
the end of the day.
00:29:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.
00:29:02
That's a great story.
00:29:03
I know I'm not the guest, but let me add this story to it too,
00:29:07
because it just happened.
00:29:08
Last week was something I was Maybe I was working with, and
00:29:13
you know, v2b sales looked at a post that happened to be a post
00:29:17
from the company for one of his tier one targets and he did the.
00:29:22
I don't know what to do.
00:29:23
I don't know what to do.
00:29:25
And I said look, read it again, close your eyes and say it out
00:29:30
loud, or say it to yourself and then tell me where it resonates
00:29:34
with you.
00:29:34
And he said well, he started laughing after he did it and he
00:29:38
said well, it resonates with me on a personal side, not a
00:29:41
business side.
00:29:42
And I'm like, hold on, like you should be.
00:29:47
Oops, sorry, I'm gonna beat up my microphone.
00:29:49
You should be totally okay that you resonated on a personal.
00:29:55
What is it?
00:29:56
And it was a picture from the company's barbecue, like
00:29:59
employee event, and one of the pictures was a jumpy house.
00:30:03
And he said well, I got this memory when I was a kid and I
00:30:06
went to my dad's company picnic and they had the jumpy house and
00:30:09
I just remember the older kids were like sending us to the moon
00:30:13
, all those younger kids.
00:30:14
So I felt like I was going it and I said write that.
00:30:16
And he went in.
00:30:18
He's like feeling awkward and he writes it and like within 20,
00:30:22
25 minutes, something like that he pings me and he goes.
00:30:25
The CEO of the company commented on my comment and you
00:30:30
know something about that is one of the reasons why we do
00:30:32
company pickets, you know.
00:30:34
We wanna make sure the kids and the families are having fun too
00:30:37
.
00:30:37
Thanks for sharing your story.
00:30:39
Like dude, you are now digitally having conversations
00:30:43
with the CEO of one of your tier one targets, because you talked
00:30:48
about a jumpy house.
00:30:50
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
00:30:53
Speaker 4: Being a human being and we gotta remember there's
00:30:56
two paths.
00:30:57
You know, look at a post.
00:30:58
You can go straight down a business path, but you've got
00:31:01
that personal path and if you can go personal and then bring
00:31:05
it back to business, bonus extra points.
00:31:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you should always lead, like you
00:31:09
mentioned it earlier, brandon, you know like we are, we want to
00:31:13
connect with human beings on different levels and it's not
00:31:16
just about business, right?
00:31:17
So one of my good friends I connected with years ago and
00:31:21
he's you know, we're working together, et cetera and has
00:31:24
landed I've landed clients because of him.
00:31:26
I sent him a connection request and I lived in California for
00:31:29
10 years before I started my Nomad life and he was in Fort
00:31:32
Bragg with his dog and he posted a picture of him and his dog in
00:31:36
Fort Bragg and I just happened to be in the area too, in the
00:31:39
Mendocino area, and I was like you know, I sent him a
00:31:42
connection request, you know, and it literally just mentioned
00:31:44
like hey, first name, I saw you and Cooper, his dog's name.
00:31:48
We're just in, you know, fort Bragg.
00:31:50
I was also there with my dogs a couple of weeks ago.
00:31:52
It's so beautiful there, but happy to connect.
00:31:55
Nothing about business whatsoever.
00:31:56
He replies back wow, you're the MVP, you're the first person,
00:32:01
the last few thousand requests I've got.
00:32:03
That even took time to look at anything on my profile, you know
00:32:06
, and it had nothing to do about business at all.
00:32:09
So prime example, like everyone resonates with personal stories
00:32:14
.
00:32:14
We are humans, you know.
00:32:17
So I think we overthink that Like we forget about that
00:32:20
sometimes.
00:32:22
Speaker 4: I think we get in LinkedIn and we think about our
00:32:25
title and our company and we get so caught up and rigid into you
00:32:29
know we're this person in business, but we never do that
00:32:35
when we're at networking events or cocktail parties or dinner.
00:32:38
In fact, it's just the opposite .
00:32:41
We actually tend to go to personal as much as we can and
00:32:46
then know that business will come from it.
00:32:48
It's just kind of a mind blow that we can't seem to really
00:32:51
connect those dots.
00:32:52
I think that's one of my questions for you, mandy is what
00:32:57
are some of the best ways or how we?
00:32:58
You know we've got an audience of people and, tom, I know you
00:33:01
wanted to bring up some comments , but how do you help them get
00:33:07
to that place of embracing, understanding and even being
00:33:11
enthusiastic to teach me how to be more human on LinkedIn?
00:33:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, practice makes perfect, right?
00:33:18
Like practice and look at what other people are doing and use
00:33:22
their kind of formats to help you, right?
00:33:25
So, like most people, if you look at a lot of creators on
00:33:29
LinkedIn, aside from, like their personal stories and stuff,
00:33:32
like they're depending on their niche, they're all kind of
00:33:34
talking about the same thing.
00:33:36
It's just their own unique take on it, right?
00:33:38
So you don't have to reinvent the wheel.
00:33:41
You don't have to come up with, like OMG, content that no one's
00:33:44
ever heard before, some ground breaking tip that no one's ever
00:33:49
heard.
00:33:49
Like no one's really doing that , right?
00:33:51
So you just have to feel comfortable and sharing your own
00:33:54
experience and putting your own take on a tip or something.
00:33:58
But it comes with practice, you know.
00:34:00
So I always say, like, follow people who are really good at
00:34:02
this.
00:34:02
Follow creators on LinkedIn, obviously, but you could follow
00:34:07
them on any channel whatever you want blogs, et cetera and learn
00:34:10
from other people and how they're doing it, Consume that
00:34:12
content and then just go out there and do it, because the
00:34:14
more you do it, the easier it's going to become.
00:34:17
But also be a master of content curation.
00:34:21
So, for those people who aren't super comfortable with posting
00:34:24
content.
00:34:24
Obviously start commenting, like the tip I gave earlier it's
00:34:27
going to help but also start curating content so you can take
00:34:30
content from anyone and any company on LinkedIn, but you can
00:34:33
also take content from anywhere on the internet and you can
00:34:35
post it on LinkedIn I know right , Ground breaking tip here and
00:34:40
then you can add your own two cents of what you found helpful
00:34:43
about that piece of content.
00:34:44
Like that is super easy and that is content curation.
00:34:47
Like we don't have to all come up with this crazy thought
00:34:50
leadership content all the time.
00:34:51
Like I'm training sales teams and my goal isn't for them to
00:34:53
become the next LinkedIn influencer they won't be, they
00:34:56
don't want to be the next LinkedIn influencer.
00:34:57
So my goal is to help them put themselves out there a little
00:35:00
more and to get their feet wet.
00:35:01
I have them share other people's posts, their company
00:35:04
content, but I want them to add their own unique spin to it and
00:35:07
their own take and what they found helpful from that.
00:35:09
Right.
00:35:10
Speaker 4: That's good.
00:35:11
I like the three step approach on curating content.
00:35:14
Read an article, step one.
00:35:17
That's probably the hardest part for people, right, actually
00:35:19
taking time to read it, but read something.
00:35:22
And then step one is I read this article because, right,
00:35:28
this article is important to put in your prospects titles,
00:35:33
because tell them why it's important to them.
00:35:35
And then here's three key points I took from the article
00:35:40
and explain them Like, just start.
00:35:43
I like what you're saying.
00:35:45
Just start, keep getting started.
00:35:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:35:49
Speaker 2: And I think that you know lines with a couple of
00:35:50
comments here.
00:35:51
You know James was saying I get it to display, here it goes is
00:35:56
I think content could be overwhelming and it freezes
00:35:59
people into an action.
00:36:00
Keep it simple, right.
00:36:03
I think the complexity a lot of times is as much of the barrier
00:36:07
than I'm, you know, fearful of saying anything is like this is
00:36:10
overwhelming.
00:36:10
Let's just keep it simple, which I think is exactly what
00:36:13
we've been talking about.
00:36:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would say with that too, remember it's so
00:36:17
much of social media and life in general is we compare our
00:36:21
true self to other people's projected selves and when you're
00:36:26
looking at like Mandy's comments, you might get
00:36:29
overwhelmed.
00:36:29
But Mandy's been doing this a long time, so don't feel like
00:36:33
you have to be as good as Mandy.
00:36:35
Use it as an example to get started and be okay with where
00:36:38
you're at right now.
00:36:39
But the key that in Mandy keeps saying I'll just reemphasize
00:36:42
her words just start.
00:36:44
Practice makes perfect.
00:36:45
Get going and you get more comfortable.
00:36:48
It's like anything else, and more we do it, the less scary it
00:36:51
becomes.
00:36:52
Speaker 3: Exactly and don't worry about.
00:36:53
Even when we're talking about posting here, I think people get
00:36:56
analysis paralysis also because they're afraid of what other
00:36:59
people will think.
00:37:00
And they're afraid of not getting likes and comments, but
00:37:02
I don't worry about that.
00:37:04
Like, these are all vanity metrics.
00:37:05
Like, everyone who started off had zero comments and likes on
00:37:09
their posts.
00:37:09
Everyone starts from zero.
00:37:11
And guess what?
00:37:12
Hardly anyone is really doing this.
00:37:14
Like, there's tons of people on LinkedIn and you might think
00:37:16
that, like, there's tons of creators, but there's really not
00:37:18
that many people posting consistently on LinkedIn.
00:37:20
There's really not.
00:37:21
And so when you do that, you're already going to be in the
00:37:24
minority and kudos to you.
00:37:26
So, like, I hope that you're also taking away some confidence
00:37:28
from me being here today, because I want you to just go
00:37:31
out there and do it and don't worry about what people think,
00:37:34
don't worry about how many comments, don't worry about how
00:37:36
many likes, because the more consistent you are, it's gonna
00:37:39
come.
00:37:39
You're gonna get engagement and then the more your comments and
00:37:41
other people's stuff, they're gonna notice that and then
00:37:44
they're gonna comment on your stuff.
00:37:45
So you have to like, put in the work and be consistent and it
00:37:48
will all come to you to tenfold.
00:37:50
But don't get discouraged when you first start posting and
00:37:53
commenting and you're like oh no , one's seeing it, I'm gonna
00:37:56
quit, no one likes it, that's.
00:37:57
Don't do that, because that's what everyone else does Like.
00:38:00
You have to stay in this, you know.
00:38:01
You have to be consistent.
00:38:03
Speaker 4: No good words.
00:38:04
You have someone else you wanna pull up.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to touch on David here.
00:38:10
You know, back to our conversation about AI and
00:38:13
commenting and so forth.
00:38:14
I think he brings hours communicating with people.
00:38:17
We just know intuitively when it's genuine and when an effort
00:38:21
has been made.
00:38:22
I think there's two points that he's bringing up there.
00:38:24
One is we know if it's genuine, right, we can see it in a
00:38:27
second if it looks like some AI generated thing.
00:38:30
But then also, you know, is there an effort that's made to
00:38:34
actually make a good communication, versus just put
00:38:37
something down there?
00:38:38
To say, I put something down there, as you said, just to kind
00:38:41
of spray, I think was the word you use.
00:38:42
Mandy is kind of spraying myself out there.
00:38:45
That's not really a very good communication there.
00:38:48
Speaker 3: Right, I think that's a great point.
00:38:49
Yeah, it just doesn't.
00:38:52
It's not as effective anymore, and I'm talking about everything
00:38:54
from cold calls to cold emails to cold LinkedIn outreach like
00:38:58
it's all the same.
00:38:59
You know, like if you think about the general concept of
00:39:02
connecting with other humans, it doesn't matter what medium
00:39:05
you're using to do it.
00:39:06
You have to do it in a way that resonates and they know that
00:39:09
you actually paid attention to them.
00:39:10
Like Sam McKinnon says show me, you know me.
00:39:12
Right.
00:39:12
It's, it's like a mantra, and that's what we're talking about
00:39:15
here.
00:39:16
Like, show me that you took the time and you actually know who
00:39:19
the hell you're talking to.
00:39:20
Speaker 2: You know that's good, and Captain Kirk would like to
00:39:24
see your book again.
00:39:25
Speaker 4: Brandon, you're a lot of influence people.
00:39:29
Yeah.
00:39:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, as we're kind of getting to the end here,
00:39:33
mandy, now I think we have the big grand finale question for
00:39:35
you, which is how to three X your LinkedIn engagement in 30
00:39:40
days.
00:39:40
We've all been waiting for that .
00:39:44
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, you've been waiting for it right.
00:39:45
The grand finale, okay, so obviously, everything that we're
00:39:52
talking about anymore.
00:39:53
Speaker 2: Tonight you had this your last thing you have to say.
00:39:55
Speaker 3: Night 11 to almost 11 11 pm here in Greece.
00:40:01
Speaker 2: So that's, it.
00:40:03
Speaker 3: Here we go, okay, so step number one is you need to
00:40:07
be taking advantage of LinkedIn's 100 connection
00:40:09
requests per week.
00:40:10
You have to be sending connection requests every single
00:40:14
day, at minimum 50.
00:40:15
But how you do this is first, you find the people.
00:40:19
So, if you have sales navigator , build out a list of prospects.
00:40:22
If you don't, you can do this manually, but find people who
00:40:24
are actively using the LinkedIn platform.
00:40:26
There's lots of other ways to do this If you don't have sales
00:40:29
nav, and use my friendly leader method, which is, essentially,
00:40:32
they go and comments on their post or their comments.
00:40:37
So some people don't post content consistently, but they
00:40:39
comment consistently.
00:40:40
You guys can engage with other people's comments.
00:40:42
So like or respond to a comment , like a post or and or comments
00:40:49
on that post.
00:40:50
Wait a little bit till they see it Either they respond to it or
00:40:54
they like it, whatever.
00:40:55
Then send a custom connection request mentioning what it is
00:40:59
that you engaged with, whether it was their comments or their
00:41:01
posts.
00:41:02
And then, obviously, they accept your connection request
00:41:06
nine times out of 10 because it's personalized and you're
00:41:09
boosting their ego and helping their content or comments in the
00:41:11
algorithm.
00:41:12
And then you start the dialogue from there and you continue to
00:41:14
follow up, but this doesn't work unless you are consistently
00:41:17
sending connection requests every single day.
00:41:19
So that is the key.
00:41:21
This actually has nothing to do with posting your own content
00:41:23
at all.
00:41:23
That helps.
00:41:24
What this has everything to do with is engaging and building
00:41:27
meaningful relationships by sending connection requests, and
00:41:29
the majority of people are not even anywhere close to sending a
00:41:33
hundred connection requests per week, which is what you're
00:41:35
allowed to do.
00:41:35
So when you do this, I guarantee you, I promise you
00:41:38
that you will three X your engagement, because you're
00:41:41
probably sending maybe five connection requests a week,
00:41:44
maybe 10, you know.
00:41:45
So if you're 10 Xing what you're doing and you're doing it
00:41:48
by also leaving comments you're naturally going to create tons
00:41:53
of engagement and lots of connections and goodwill in the
00:41:56
community.
00:41:56
Bam.
00:41:58
Speaker 2: If we're doing a hundred, if you're doing a
00:42:00
hundred a week, could you be making a personal comment on
00:42:04
each of those?
00:42:05
Do you recommend making Not everyone?
00:42:07
Speaker 3: is yeah, not everyone's going to be posting
00:42:09
content.
00:42:10
So if they don't post content consistently, just call
00:42:12
something out from their profile that stood out to you.
00:42:15
Or maybe their company was just mentioned and you can mention
00:42:17
something about their company, right?
00:42:18
Because not everyone that you send a connection request to is
00:42:21
going to have content or comments to engage with.
00:42:24
That's just not realistic.
00:42:25
It's only going to be a percentage.
00:42:26
So for those people that don't have anything, find something
00:42:29
else on their profile to mention .
00:42:31
Or, if you can't find their profile, look at what's
00:42:32
happening in their company and mention something about their
00:42:35
company, right?
00:42:35
There's so many different ways to call to make a personalized
00:42:39
request for people that aren't consistently posting content.
00:42:43
Speaker 2: But always say something, always say something,
00:42:46
whether it can always say something.
00:42:48
Speaker 3: If you can't.
00:42:49
If you can't and you're in a hurry, then just send the
00:42:51
connection request without saying anything.
00:42:53
I mean, it depends on the person.
00:42:54
But if you have a solid profile , if you have a really highly
00:42:57
optimized profile and you have a decent connection request or
00:43:00
decent amount of followers, you could probably get away with not
00:43:02
saying anything and then connection requests for some
00:43:04
people.
00:43:05
But if you don't have an optimized profile and you don't
00:43:07
have, you know, if you have under a thousand connections and
00:43:10
your profile is crap, then you're going to have to take the
00:43:12
extra.
00:43:13
So but but don't have a crap profile.
00:43:15
Like there's no reason for you to.
00:43:17
I have a free checklist you can download.
00:43:18
You don't even have to often do it.
00:43:19
You know like, optimize your profile, stuff number one and
00:43:23
that'll help.
00:43:23
But we've done tests and some executives actually accept
00:43:28
connection request with nothing in it more than they do with
00:43:31
stuff in it.
00:43:32
But that's only because they get a bunch of crap generic you
00:43:35
know reactionary requests are personalized.
00:43:38
That's why right.
00:43:40
Speaker 2: Kind of like, if you keep, you don't going to say
00:43:41
something, good, don't say it at all.
00:43:42
Don't say it at all.
00:43:44
Speaker 3: Why don't you ever say it?
00:43:44
Speaker 2: Tom.
00:43:45
Speaker 3: That's, that's my thing, Like if you, if you
00:43:46
literally cannot come to anything to say, then I would
00:43:50
rather you send a blank connection request than say
00:43:52
something that's annoying or spammy or makes you look at your
00:43:54
desperate, you know so.
00:43:57
Speaker 2: No, great point, Brandon.
00:43:59
Any final question before we let Mandy go to sleep?
00:44:02
Speaker 4: No, I would just say my fan status of you went up,
00:44:06
mandy.
00:44:06
I really appreciate how you explain and take on that human
00:44:13
approach.
00:44:14
I love, obviously, with our Fist Bump tool, that we're
00:44:19
building around commenting.
00:44:20
I love how you champion commenting and it's not.
00:44:23
Oh, we're doing Fist Bump.
00:44:25
You talk about commenting.
00:44:26
The foundation of it is commenting.
00:44:29
I believe, and I think you believe it's the most important
00:44:33
activity that we can do.
00:44:34
So much comes from it and, yeah , it can be hard, it can be
00:44:39
overwhelming, it could be a little intimidating.
00:44:41
Your imposter syndrome can kick in all that stuff.
00:44:43
Fine, but if you want to be different than anyone else, go
00:44:49
comment.
00:44:50
Speaker 3: Yep, you have to, and that's how you stand out, you
00:44:53
know is be a human and build those relationships and leave
00:44:56
meaningful comments, because it's going to come back to you.
00:44:58
You can build relationships of people that you never thought
00:45:01
you could, that have loads of followers and you would have
00:45:04
thought that they would never even give you the time of day
00:45:07
and just by commenting consistently on their posts, you
00:45:09
can have conversations with them, I promise you.
00:45:12
Most people are really nice on LinkedIn, and especially when
00:45:14
you engage with them, you know, and so like, don't be afraid to
00:45:17
go out there and engage with you know, influencers and people
00:45:22
that have a lot more followers than you, because they will see
00:45:24
it and they will notice it, and that's a Gary Vee and like.
00:45:27
Those types of influencers, right, but the niche influencers
00:45:31
, right, that don't have millions and millions of
00:45:33
followers.
00:45:33
I promise you you'll be able to stand out when you do this.
00:45:38
Speaker 4: Gary Vee did respond to my tweet about seven or eight
00:45:41
years ago and I chatted with him a little bit and I thought
00:45:45
it was like the coolest thing ever.
00:45:47
But I don't know if I'd get that status these days.
00:45:50
So if you're going to comment on Gary Vee, just use an F-bomb
00:45:54
or two and you might fit it right in.
00:45:56
Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly.
00:45:57
Well, thanks, andrew, for your comment.
00:45:59
You're sweet.
00:46:00
I appreciate your support.
00:46:01
He's the best.
00:46:03
Yes, andrew.
00:46:04
Speaker 2: Andrew has made some really great comments.
00:46:05
You have definitely have some fans here, Mandy.
00:46:08
If somebody wants to know more about your business or anything
00:46:10
about what you do, where would they best check you out?
00:46:13
I know LinkedIn, of course.
00:46:15
Speaker 3: LinkedIn, obviously, yeah, I mean, linkedin's the
00:46:17
best place.
00:46:17
Yeah, but MontrealMarketingcom is my main company website and
00:46:21
that will link you to a lot of information too.
00:46:24
But if you want to, if we're not already connected, hit me up
00:46:27
on LinkedIn.
00:46:28
Speaker 4: Comment first.
00:46:29
Right Okay, Comment first before you send her a connection
00:46:32
request.
00:46:32
Speaker 3: You can do that, or you can just send me a
00:46:33
connection request you are on this, you can say you attended
00:46:36
this and you don't have to comment and I will accept.
00:46:38
Okay, just by that alone.
00:46:41
Speaker 2: You can even go into chat GPT and say write me
00:46:43
something that said I attended this show and I want to connect
00:46:46
to Mandy, Add lots of emojis.
00:46:49
We could say that Exactly.
00:46:51
Any forward, I think you said he's down on my check.
00:46:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, If you guys want my free checklist again,
00:46:56
you could just go to my profile and it's pinned on my featured
00:46:58
section and you don't have to opt in or anything.
00:47:01
It's right there for you.
00:47:02
So go check it out and optimize your profile, Every single one
00:47:05
of you.
00:47:06
If you have not done this already, that is step number one
00:47:08
and I'm happy to help.
00:47:09
If you want me to review it anytime, send me a message and
00:47:12
I'll help you out.
00:47:14
Speaker 2: I think one of our new mantras Brandon is don't
00:47:16
have a crap profile.
00:47:19
Speaker 4: I was just going there.
00:47:20
I was about to say the quote of the day is don't have a crap
00:47:23
profile.
00:47:24
Exactly Like you said, if you have a crap profile, well, don't
00:47:28
have a crap profile.
00:47:29
Pretty much, yeah, I like it All right.
00:47:32
I mean we're going to let you get some rest.
00:47:35
You've had a long day.
00:47:36
Thank you for staying up late, for us.
00:47:38
Speaker 2: Thank you and yeah, for your listening.
00:47:41
Please get the podcast.
00:47:43
Go check out the podcast, download it.
00:47:44
Leave us a rating.
00:47:45
We're really trying to get to number one.
00:47:48
We're kind of going between number one and two on social
00:47:51
selling, so we're really trying to push to get to number one.
00:47:54
And next week we have another awesome guest, Morgan Ingraham.
00:48:00
Right, Brandon is next week, so the party will continue.
00:48:06
Speaker 4: I may even try and pull him in live, since he's
00:48:08
here, he lives.
00:48:09
I don't know, we're like 15 minutes apart, that'd be fun.
00:48:12
Yeah, maybe I'll figure out how to pull that off.
00:48:15
I will not be in the truck stop next week.
00:48:18
That's a good thing.
00:48:21
Speaker 2: That was a good thing All right.
00:48:23
Speaker 4: Randy, thank you again.
00:48:24
We really appreciate it.
00:48:26
Speaker 3: Of course, thank you guys for having me.
00:48:27
I had fun Absolutely.
00:48:29
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00:48:30
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